It's everywhere. Maybe YOU've seen it?
I sure have.
2nd person makes a devious appearance in the first chapter of Living Dead Girl; You by Charles Benoit, the upcoming sure-to-be-a-hit novel is narrated entirely in 2nd person; Printz-winning How I Live Now is stock-full of those buggers; and the last book I finished--Stolen--had a unique combination of 1st and 2nd person.
YOU is everywhere.*
This sudden--at least from my viewpoint--plague of You is a bit unsettling. Weird. Strange. A little scary, even. Maybe YOU've always been aware of it, but I haven't. And to me--as it seems that I come into more contact with the 2nd person as I pour over recently released books and unpublished snippets of writing--it's growing. Surging, even.
It's been hammered into my head over and over by numerous English teachers that no one but fools asking to be mocked and deprived of any literary standing use 2nd person; that if they do it's only a few sentences; that it jolts/jars/irritates/angers the reader and that 3rd person limited and first person are much better narrative forms. Also, that I'd never see 2nd person--maybe once if I was unlucky. Or twice.
I've seen it alright. And now, I can't avoid it.
I pretty much believed my teachers up until now. Second person = bad or fleeting. Whenever we went over POV, there would be lengthy definitions of the different variations of 1st and 3rd. 2nd would sometimes be mentioned in a vague afterthought--it's just basically "You" they'd say, but don't worry, it won't turn up. **
YA has become a place of unsettling tense/POV combinations that would make many readers of adult fiction cringe at the impropriety, the uppityness, the departure from established literary standards . It's 2010, the era of YA (it's long tendrils have reached and entrapped many adult readers by now) and I still see writers and readers arguing that first person present, permeating many of the books I read today is terrible, unusable, and mark of the incompetence of an author. Which is silly. I kind of want to shove The Hunger Games and Cracked Up to Be and half the YA section at them.
They say: first person MUST ALWAYS be past. Third person limited (past) is the best POV. They upturn their noses at the mention of awkward & self-conscious 3rd person present (an assessment I for the most part agree with***). I fear what they'll say about 2nd person. They'd probably scream or have a cow if they knew what I've been reading lately.
But maybe it's not that bad. I, for the most part, write this blog in 2nd person. (IT HAS INFILTRATED EVEN HERE! RUN! EVACUATE!). I write poetry in 2nd person.(whoah, how'd that happen? I really don't know). I kinda like 2nd person, and I'm starting to realize that just right now.
The 2nd person I've read--stubborn as I am--has been pretty darn good. Amazing, even. It's got this very haunting quality to it, as the main character or author speaks directly to you. The most striking part of Just in Case (by Meg Rosoff, the same author as How I Live Now) is a harrowing vignette of a plane crash, narrated in 2nd person. A character who jumps out of the page to the audience and says knowingly, "My friend always pretends like she's dumber than she really is. Don't you just hate when someone does that?" can be refreshing, voice-filled. Books narrated entirely in 2nd person can be done, and done well.
So no having cows needed. None. No conniptions either.
Maybe from now on I can have my 2nd person and enjoy it and not feel misgivings at the mention of it.
And I'm thinking--this is just my speculation--we'll be seeing more of 2nd person soon. At least on the YA side of things--whether it be short sections in the middle of a text or the POV of choice of the author.
So this is where you tell me what you think of 2nd person. Have you noticed more of it lately or is it just me? Any really good books in 2nd person?
* I'll ignore the terrible grammar of that sentence. *twitches*
**Here's something I've learned: Don't trust your English teachers solely because they're adults with a red pen.
*** 3rd person present does, for the most part, read awkwardly to me. Atwood has got it down in The Blind Assassin, though and I'm sure lots of others do too.
6.13.2010
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Ah Yuan · 772 weeks ago
I really loved Karin Lowachee's use of 2nd person in her first novel Warchild (but it isn't YA, it's Adult SciFi.) Can't really think of another example off the top of my head....
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
And I agree that 2nd person is really tricky, but it can also be amazing. And thank you very much for the rec :)
Remilda Graystone · 772 weeks ago
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Audrey · 772 weeks ago
However, just sayin, I actually am really really fond of 1st person present (not only becuase of the absolutely fabulous books like the Courtney Summers ones, but also because anything I write usually ends up in that tense and I'm too lazy to change it) so those haters can suck it.
Anyways, really awesome post! thank you!
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
I can't wait for You either XD So excited!
Sandy Shin · 772 weeks ago
I believe that is the selling point of YA fiction, however: the ability to experiment with PoV and tense and style. I love present tense (third person present, actually :)) and would have never dared try writing it if all I read were adult genres. So, yes, while second person might be potentially jarring, I'm sure, if done well, it can be beautiful.
I'm looking forward to YOU by Charles Benoit -- my first introduction to second person, most likely.
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
Looking back at this post, I meant to be writing about how I'm (personally) becoming more aware of 2nd person--and maybe it's just because I read a few books w/2nd person all in a row by chance instead of in a more-spread out combination. I dunno, after thinking about it I had this strange urge to talk about the 2nd person for a bit XD
And 3rd present can be done well (I've read a few lit books w/awesome 3rd present). But so far, I haven't been too huge of a fan of 3r present in YA. But I'm just waiting to read a YA book that blows my socks off with 3rd present. XD
Meredith · 772 weeks ago
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
And I agree about the hit/miss thing. But when it's a hit...it's a big hit, IMO. :D
Cheree · 771 weeks ago
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Vee · 771 weeks ago
BUT. Second person is not new. In a lot of lit. fic and postmodern stuff, second person is used as a means of self-reflectivity, to create a sort of self-conscious style which makes the reader completely aware of the constructed nature of what they're reading. Italo Calvino's If on a Winter's Night a Traveller is a good instance of this.
Also, I love Chuck Palahniuk, and he slips into second all the time. It just feels totally seamless.
I can't wait to read YOU -- it seems awesome.
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
And I don't know if my prediction that there will be more 2nd is totally off, but we'll see XD
I can't believe how pumped I am for YOU :)
Vee · 770 weeks ago
And I think mainstream YA is cool for just rolling with all this stuff that's not okay in other genres -- present tense, second person etc. I don't know why YA is so open, but I love that it is.
Haha, maybe YA is the new experimental genre? Hmm.
I'm in full agreement with your prediction. And the pumpedness for YOU :)
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beth · 771 weeks ago
My current book trilogy is being told in first person present--the first time I'd ever written first person, and the first time I'd ever written present. In fact, I didn't realize I WAS writing in present tense until the second chapter...
So, for me, whatever voice comes naturally to the story seems to be the right one! (And I can't wait for YOU either--I'm really looking forward to more 2nd Person, honestly.)
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
And I can't wait to read your first book! I love sci-fi :)
Karen Yuan · 771 weeks ago
Love the post!
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
I think 2nd person is such a gamble, but now that some YA authors have pulled it off, maybe that'll encourage others?
And I heart The Book Thief so much XD
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
2nd person is really risky but just so powerful :)
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
Thank you, and I agree :)
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
Definitely look out for YOU then XD
And I do think it takes guts to do it ,especially since a lot of people seem to be wary of 2nd person. And hooray of different narrative forms!
_Bethany_ 93p · 771 weeks ago
I'd LOVE to read more in the third person plural. I tried writing a short story that way and while at points it did work, mostly it just failed. My novel in progress is currently first person present tense, which your English teachers wouldn't approve of, by the sounds of things. But how many of them are writers?
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inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
I doubt that any of my English teachers are writers, or would be caught dead in the YA section. But so many writers/readers seem to look down on POV/tenses other than 1st and 3rd past. It sort of baffles me--how is 1st past better than 1st present? They're simply different ways of telling the same story, w/ different pro/cons for both.
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Melanie · 771 weeks ago
I have become much more aware of narrative POV since I started blogging; glad to know I'm not alone!
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Donna at Bites · 771 weeks ago
YOU are actually the main character. It's the main reason why it's rarely used, because it's so hard to write. Bright Lights, Big City is probably the most recognized novel of second person. It requires an even larger suspension of disbelief because the author is assuming how the reader would react. The more the reader goes, "no, I wouldn't do that" as they read, the higher of a chance you'll lose them by the end of the novel.
I've yet to see it in YA and from what I understand, is hardly used at all because of its disconnect from the very reader that's being inserted into the story.
inwhichagirlreads 55p · 771 weeks ago
But I'm still a little confused. It's not second person even in long passages where the narrator talks about their personal experiences and feelings and expects that the reader has experienced it too? For example,. "You must get really irritated when things don't go your way. I do. You have a bad temper, don't you? etc--isn't it in the vein of 2nd person? While the reader isn't the main character, they become almost a character in the story that the MC is conversing with. I can understand why it'd still be called 1st, though. I think I got it wrong because I equated the MC making the reader into a character to the author making the reader the MC.
I really enjoyed Bright Lights Big City XD
And I can understand that it creates a disconnect because something like "You are deeply hurt and wounded" would cause the reader to go whaaa, no, I'm not.
But I'm hinging on YOU executing 2nd really well.
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Amanda-Lee · 770 weeks ago
I haven't ever read a novel in second person.
Third person present is awkward and hard to do.
Telling a story to me means it's happened and now you're retelling it...hence why past works best hehe.
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